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December 16th, 2002


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01:06 am - Deja vu all over again
I attended a Minicon meeting today. (A local SF con held every Easter, if you didn't know.) It's been years since I've been to one. I'm putting together a chapbook for one of the guests of honor that will be sold at the con so I attended to show my face and also to get what information I might need for putting together the book (like when it was due, for example).

While the scale of the meeting was more in tune with the much smaller con that Minicon is these days, it was so reminiscent of the meetings of old that used to drive me nuts.

Don't get me wrong. There's good things about informal gatherings to brainstorm ideas and share them across a broad group to build consensus. These gatherings, however, are not what I think of as meetings. When we fell off agenda at the second item I watched it spiral out of control.

I'm still not sure how we got from volunteers to whether or not we wanted to sell t-shirts.

As of last year, I was thinking that it might be time to think about working on Minicon again. i enjoy the con and think that I could contribute something valuable. If I have to attend meetings, however, deal is off.

Fortunately, for what I want to do for the con this year, I shouldn't have to attend future meetings. Communicate my status and deliverables before those meetings, yes, but attending doesn't seem strictly necessary

Good doughnuts, though.
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From:davidschroth
Date:December 16th, 2002 09:38 am (UTC)
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Well, it was good to have you there.

My vague recollection of how we got to volunteers to selling t-shirts is that Bill finished talking about volunteers, but the mention of volunteer "premiums" (for lack of a better word) reminded Lisa Freitag that we had a possible problem with t-shirts for Minicon 38. And that led into the selling t-shirts discussion.

One isn't expected to attend the meetings *unless* they are a department head. I was certainly happy to see you there, though (I tend to regard the meetings a both social and functional).

Glad you liked the doughnuts. I was pretty fond of them, myself.
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From:jbru
Date:December 16th, 2002 10:50 pm (UTC)
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Was nothing personal towards the meeting runners (or hosts). Lovely people. Lovely time. Just not much of a functional thing.

I'm very divided between "work" and "play." I don't mix them well and this reflects on my attitude towards meetings. I want to work at a meeting. I don't want to have silly chit-chat and tangential wanderings. Agenda. Get through agenda. Additional business after agenda. Play time after meeting.

Must be the German heritage.
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From:minnehaha
Date:December 17th, 2002 03:49 am (UTC)
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"As of last year, I was thinking that it might be time to think about working on Minicon again. i enjoy the con and think that I could contribute something valuable. If I have to attend meetings, however, deal is off."

And that's one of the major drawbacks of volunteering at a level of responsibility in any organization. It rapidly approaches "work."

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From:jbru
Date:December 17th, 2002 04:26 am (UTC)
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I'm not opposed to work, I'm opposed to social gatherings masquerading as work. I admit that this most recent Minicon meeting was short in comparison to the ones I used to attend when I worked on the beast, but then the con isn't approaching the 3k-member point anymore either. This one felt like it got too easily side-tracked and so went on longer than the work to be done required.

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